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This is excellent. Clearly and compellingly argued. And interesting. Thanks.

I do have to argue for an almost inverted meaning of “abstraction” than yours - as expressed in this central element:

“There are lots of things we can’t write down a set of complete instructions for that I think we understand. Things like the horror of war, or the fear of standing on a cliff edge, or the feeling of falling in love, or the beauty of a sunset. Basically anything that emerges at a high enough level of abstraction.”

I get what you mean and it is an important point… these things (horror, fear) are messy, complex experiences… ill-defined and “subjective”.

But I take the abstracting to be the opposite element: not that which considers the full experience of, say, “fear of a high cliff” but that of the psychologist studying it using the Livingstone Height-Fear rating scale. The latter, the quantifier, is abstracting away many elements of the experience in order to get a number from the ten physiological and verbal-query elements which comprise the LHF scale.

The claim of philosophers like Whitehead, which I follow, is that such abstraction is an almost inevitable consequence of attempting to explain or understand the experience of a reality which is vastly interconnected and relational, and(!) which contains a universal element, however minuscule, of subjective decision and choice… at all scales! All dissections via abstraction must be noted before the frog leaves the lab!

Whitehead said “seek simplicity and distrust it”… that philosophy must explain how abstractions emerge from concrete actuality; concrete facts cannot be assembled out of abstract universals.

Final note that the LHF is my invention. But there are, as the meme says, “many such cases”

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