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Chase Mathis's avatar

With the capabilities of AI, theoretical research should be called “interesting” iff someone outside the department finds it interesting. My understanding of the history of mathematics is that this was once the case. Recently mathematics has become self-referential, with the defense that “discoveries in pure math have applications down the line”. This was true, but seems increasingly irrelevant if AI can solve any well-defined problem. I’m more optimistic that the AI capabilities can reset the focus on what is “interesting” (e.g. Tsimerman working on AI safety).

There is a different question here on what to do with education: there is agreement for undergrads and below, but where does a PhD student land? I think there should be a place for a PhD student who has 20 lean-certified theorems that are used in academia and industry, but does not understand the technical details of any of them.

The question is if math is a science or an art. The mathematical artists will need to up their game to make results more presentable and appealing (we can think of these researchers as the "Apple" researchers who don't do breakthrough first but do it the best). But we should not eschew the scientist that wants to enact progress using the field instead of contributing to it.

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Ben, nice post!

Two comments: ages ago I incidentally wrote an undergrad piece on a related problem (it's not very good and I'm not going to link it here. I even think it's in Portuguese, in any case): math-assisted proofs and what that meant to the epistemology of mathematics. I was thinking of mechanically generated proofs, of course. If we define a proof as a sequence where everything is either the result of applying some derivation rule to previous steps or an axiom, there is no real difference between brute-forced proofs and 'elegant' ones. I looked up a bit into the mathematical community's answer to the 4-color theorem, the first major problem solved by computers. I think it points to that notion of proof being insufficient and mathematical research being a social process where fuzzier notions like 'insight' and 'explainability' play a larger role than that admitted by the formal paradigm. In a sense, this is different from LLM-generated proofs, that resemble the human-insight procedure more closely. They are not simply brute-forcing combinatorics. But this difference may be one of degree: Tao's comment highlights some of this and Buckmaster's comments on how he was working with the LLM-generated arguments point to a slight weaker notion of proof. Of solving statements without gaining the same degree of understanding, whatever it may be.

Second one: there's a Ted Chiang short story about a world in which humans are overcome by AIs in science and human science becomes just trying to inspect the AI-generated corpus. Almost like archaeologists to discover things about the universe. In a way, digesting and interpreting proofs, and trying to understand them, and presenting them to the community, is eerily similar to Chiang's story. Pardon any misquote, I read it a decade ago and am citing from memory, but it's food for thought in any case.

But I'm really interested in your positive propositions to 'solve the problem'. Writing to encourage you to write them down at some point.

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